maanantai 17. marraskuuta 2014

"Death metal has always been "Metal for Maniacs", not "Metal for the Masses"" - An Interview with Obduktio


Obduktio is a four-piece death metal/punk band hailing from Joensuu, Finland. Their dirty sound and in-your-face attitude reek of Autopsy and Repulsion. Come Friday, November 21st, Obduktio will be performing at a bar called LaBarre in Joensuu with a death metal band Malicious and a thrash metal/punk act Bonehunter. This sort of an event has this writer very excited, and so I felt the need to contribute and promote the show somehow. Dicklas Tappio Fleshkanen (guitar, vocals) and Кириллл Куйттинов (bass, vocals) of Obduktio were kind enough to find the time to answer my questions.

Close to a World Below: First of all, thank you for accepting my interview request. There isn’t much information to be found about you in the Internet. For example, there is no mention of your band in Metal Archives. Is this a conscious decision? If not, could you give us a short introduction to your history and lineup? E.g. are you affiliated with any other bands, and which bands and themes inspire your creative process?
Dicklas Tappio Fleshkanen: The reason why we cannot be found on Metal Archives is that they thought we were too punk! And then we thought that if that organisation is so into genre-wanking, we don’t even want or need to be part of it.
But nevertheless, Obduktio was originally found by me and Кириллл Куйттинов somewhere in spring 2013 and we recorded a few songs under the name of Napahuora. And then on one stormy and beerful night on december 2013 I played these songs to Sakari, who turned out liking them very much, and we immediately agreed on forming a band with a full line-up. Olavi was also fond of joining us as a drummer, if we were ready to change our name!
I’m also the singer/guitarist of a death metal band called Coffincraft, and Olavi has bands called Oksennus and Antero Vipunen. Most important musical influences for me on Obduktio are Discharge, Doom, Dead Kennedys, 4scums, Autopsy, Death, Repulsion and lyrically mainly Hassisen Kone.
Кириллл Куйттинов: D has his own influences and so do the others. I'm influenced mostly by black metal and Russian hc punk when it comes to playing and singing. Then there are Shitter Limited and Skitsystem, my favorites. I’ve listened to too much black metal for I can’t help but keep doing tremolo even I’m playing the bass.
CtaWB: You have a rather punkish approach to your death metal. I find this to be quite refreshing, since that aspect brings a different kind of dirtiness to your sound. Do you yourself feel more connection with the punk or the metal scene, or do you even feel the need for such labeling?
D: Actually one the main ideas behind Obduktio is to make listeners question their beliefs concerning labeling in music and in life generally. I don’t feel the need to separate metal from punk, because they both essentially represent the same extremities. And you can actually even question the existence of metal or punk scenes. Groups have the ability to create illusions of unity.
KK: I don't know about the others, but I tend to label our music as punk if I have to. Then on the other hand I have no connections to the ‘scene’, punk or metal.
CtaWB: In my opinion metal, especially extreme metal, rarely works when sang in Finnish, with a few exceptions such as Rippikoulu and Vainaja. You, on the other hand, have quite an original lyric style and using Finnish works for your benefit. However, you also have one song in English, “Handless bastard, headless bitch”. Is this a one-time thing or will you continue writing lyrics in both Finnish and English? Also, how did you end up writing your lyrics (at least mainly) in Finnish?
D: I have always felt a bit strange of writing lyrics in english, and in Coffincraft it was and is the basic way of making things. For about five years I’ve had a notebook, where I write lyrical ideas, mainly in finnish, and one day when reading it, I realized that I have an irresistible need of using those finnish lyrics for some purpose. So Obduktio actually came out of real need, it was meant to be formed. I guess ”Handless Bastard, Headless Bitch” will be one of a kind, because it’s a very old song I’ve had lyrics ready for for many years. It’s a classic zombie-holocaust-fantasy, kind of like a tribute to grand old school of death metal, but I have no interest in writing that kind of lyrics anymore. I’m able to say much more by using finnish, and I have a lot to say.
KK: My source of inspiration for the lyrics I’ve wrote (a couple) is just sheer vitutus. And it’s easier to express that kind of feeling in Finnish.
CtaWB: Related to the first question, you write punk lyrics and place them in a death metal context. For instance, your song “Petra” has rape themed lyrics, but unlike usually in death metal, it is not about fucking someone with a knife while you cum blood all over the place. On the contrary, it is not about the act itself, but more about the consequences and the sheer brutality of the aftershock, which actually makes the song more effective. Is this kind of effect created by an unconventional approach planned, or do you just want to write punk lyrics?
D: I’ve always been a pretty thoughtful and aware in person, and I see alot of injustice and trouble in my environment. I guess my head would have exploded a few times if didn’t write songs like ”Petra” or ”Kunnes Kuolet”. I think bitterness is more effective than brutality. But being offensive is the most effective.
CtaWB: It is my understanding that so far you have released your music only in the Internet. As a record enthusiast I must ask; can we expect a physical release at some point?
D: We have actually released a few tapes: ”Treenisnauha” and ”Maksa”.
KK: I hope our future LP will have a physical form of some sort. It better not be a vinyl, I have no vinyl player.


CtaWB: You’re getting up on LaBarre’s stage in Joensuu with Malicious and Bonehunter on Friday, November 21st. Have you listened to these bands and what are your expectations of the evening?
D: They’re both absolutely brilliant, and I think I’m honored to share a stage with those punky sons of bitches. OMEKO!
KK: We'll be performing some new songs. Too bad we can’t play the samples which belong to them. I guess the gig will be fine.
CtaWB: The first time I saw you live, I believe it was also an event organized by Metal for Maniacs in spring. You shared the stage with Bonehunter and Axeslaughter. My recollection of your gig was basically “Young guys who dig Autopsy. It was ok, I guess.” Fast forward to July to an event held by Susiraja Metal Club. Your show felt like being ran over by a tank. In my eyes, it was a real improvement compared to the previous show. Do you feel that you had gained more experience and honed yourself as a band altogether during those few months? Or was it just me being in the right mood for your music?
D: I guess the songs had gone through some kind of development and Кириллл started his job as a second vocalist. That might have made us sound ”bigger”. It’s also possible that you were more drunk than on the previous gig.
KK: In my opinion the main improvement was that during that time I finally learned how to play and sing at the same time. That made possible to perform songs like Kulmikas or Kunnes kuolet as they should. And the world would have never heard Middle Asian throat singing over surfy punk (I’m referring to Kulmikas now). The shrieking parts are influenced directly by Bathory. We also began to use more D-beat, the best beat ever made. Otherwise little has changed, guitars keep shreaking, bass still buzzing, drums still blasting.



CtaWB: The underground Finnish death metal scene has been very lively for the last few years, and it has also been noted internationally, as for instance Dark Descent Records has signed many new Finnish dm bands. You could say that the Finnish death metal is sort of living its renaissance. Sadly, this has not really shown in Joensuu, aside from a few events organized by Metal for Maniacs and Pohjois-Karjalan black metal (North Karelian Black Metal). There are tons of awesome death metal bands in Finland right now, but they don’t seem to find their way to Joensuu, this is why the events such as Friday’s are really important. Do you think there is any particular reason to the lack of quality black and death metal gigs here, and is there something that could be done about the matter?
D: Joensuu is a pretty small town, and death metal has always been exactly ”Metal for Maniacs”, not ”Metal for the Masses”, or ”Metal For the Massi’s”.
KK: I have no interest in this matter. If there’s a good gig coming, I’ll be attending, but lack of them doesn’t annoy me.
CtaWB: Joensuu has a lot of metal bands, but aside from such names as Hårda Skit, Oksennus and obviously you guys, I think it lacks black/death metal bands dedicated to the honest underground sound and musical approach. One could argue that the small size of the city would be a big factor in the matter, but I’m not sure if it explains it all. One of the most positive qualities of Joensuu is that people in there are active and have a real DIY attitude, but unfortunately it hasn’t really reflected on the black/death scene. Do you feel the same? If so, can you think of any reasons to this? Also, do you think Joensuu’s bands and shows could benefit from broader and more unified underground black and death metal scene?
D: Haven’t really thought about it, guess I’ve been just too focused on playing guitar and screaming my head off.
KK: I don’t care about the ‘scene’. I’d prefer not to be a part of it.
CtaWB: What does the future hold for Obduktio? Do you have any specific plans, recording- or gig-wise?
D: We have a plenty of new songs, and we’re going to record a full-lenght somewhere in the spring-summer 2015.
CtaWB: As I myself am always interested in finding new bands to listen, for my final question I would like to ask you to recommend some underground metal bands that have made an impression on you and you feel haven’t achieved the attention they deserve?
KK: All ug-hc-punk & black metal from Russian Karelia and St. Petersburg area. 4scums, Iskra Zhizny, Antimelodix, Meti Bhuvah, Komatoz.
CtaWB: Thanks a lot for your time! I’m really looking forward to seeing you on stage on Friday! If there is anything you would like to say to the people reading this, feel free to do so.
D: You’re goddamn right I’m free! And so are you all!
KK: Mie tuun keikalle, tuuthan siekkii.


I’m really looking forward to Obduktio’s upcoming full-length, and sure hope KK gets a vinyl player at some point.

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